I don't hate this, where should I turn in my Oppo card?

"I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker" (qaaaaa) 02/03/2019 at 15:13 • Filed to: None

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BMW X4. First time I’ve been aware of seeing one in my life. It’s sedan-y, so it’s less practical than its wagon-y sibling, but the same comparison can be made for actual sedans and wagons.

FSI > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 15:30

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way2blu does a rev update > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 15:32

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No. Not sedan-y.

Liftback-y.

WilliamsSW > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 15:41

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Well, it’s less ugly than the X6, 3GT, 5GT or the various Mercedes copycats, so I’ll give you that, I suppose.

But that’s a really low hurdle.

dogisbadob > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 15:52

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Is it rusting already? Look at that shit on the back door!

Spanfeller is a twat > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 15:59

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I like the new Rav4

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > dogisbadob 02/03/2019 at 16:12

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Ohio

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > way2blu does a rev update 02/03/2019 at 16:14

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See, I think of 4 door liftbacks as a subset of sedans (and 2 doors as coupe). I don’t think of them as hatches.

way2blu does a rev update > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 16:18

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I agree on all counts, but BMW doesn’t :

Enhance!

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 16:21

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But the whole liftbackiness is akin to a hatchback and only slightly resembles a saloon visually.

My view is that hachbacks and liftbacks have (not always, there may be an exce ption or two here and there) have the hinges above the rear windows where a coupe or saloon has the hinges below the rear window.

Khalbali > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 16:22

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I like the Merc ones but not really the BMWs, just prefer the smoother styling. But my car is also revoked.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 02/03/2019 at 16:32

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Right, but IMO in classifying vehicles, visual cues are most important. A liftback is a type of sedan or coupe because it has the same silhouette as one. Like, take the Mazda6. It was offered as sedan and liftback with virtually the same silhouette - it even has the notch for where the trunk would be on the sedan.

E92M3 > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 16:44

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There’s appr oximately 300 people a month that agree with you. Seems too few to be worth it IMO, but the math works somehow for BMW.

Yet we can’t have a M2 sedan or in BMW speak a M2 “ Gr an C oupe”.

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/03/2019 at 17:13

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Visual cues are important, but only plays a part in it.

A coupe is a two door with a separate boot, a three door hatchback/liftback is a two door with a boot that opens into the main cabin of the vehicle, a saloon is a four door with a separate boot, a five door laftback/hatchback is a four door with a boot that opens into the main cabin of the vehicle, a five door estate is a four door with a near vertical tailgate and normally has a large D pillar.

To say these are both saloons does a diservice to the practicality of the liftback over the saloon. 

Four door saloon

Five door liftback

David Baker > Svend 02/03/2019 at 17:22

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I wish Ford sold the M ondeo wagon in the USA. While I’m dreaming equip it with the 2.7TT + AWD from our Fusion Sport.

Svend > David Baker 02/03/2019 at 18:01

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Ye’, we don’t get those large inefficient engines.

The Fusion Sport with the 2.7 does 17US/ 20.4UKmpg to 26US/ 31.2UKmpg.

While the largest engine in the Mondeo estate is the

1.5 Ecoboost (163 bhp) 35.8US/43UKmpg to 39US/47UKmpg or the

2.0 diesel (148 bhp) 47.2US/57Ukmpg to 55.7US/67UKmpg.

There was a 123bhp 1.0 Ecoboost Mondeo which seems to of been discontinued. 

diplodicus forgot his password > WilliamsSW 02/03/2019 at 18:06

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Have you seen an x2 in person yet? Even worse than the 5gt

WilliamsSW > diplodicus forgot his password 02/03/2019 at 18:12

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I honestly don’t know the difference between the X 2 and X1, and don’t really care. I’ve seen a bunch of at least one of those ( probably X1s, tbh).

And I’m a long time BMW fan and owner.  

diplodicus forgot his password > WilliamsSW 02/03/2019 at 18:51

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O you can tell the difference I think it's the ugliest car I've ever seen. I don't really care about them either just saw a few driving around and wondered what could possibly posses someone to buy a car that looks like that.

WilliamsSW > diplodicus forgot his password 02/03/2019 at 18:56

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Yeah - the X2 is the one with BMW badges on the effing rear pillar, isn’t it?

Looks like they took an X 1 and partly melted it down. Bleah.

pip bip - choose Corrour > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/04/2019 at 06:01

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off to gulag with you

Nauraushaun > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 02/08/2019 at 09:23

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Practicality aside, this is a hideous and ill proportioned car